the way things are is simply a reflection of the culture at the time of it being written. It is stupid to try to impose modern assumptions on societies of 4 centuries ago. I'm 14, so I'm starting to worry that I'll never be able to play Juliet…. When do young and old characters come into conflict? I believe they're quite near that ages. Your email address will not be published. Bianca Mastroianni news.com.au … If R&J took place in modern times I think the only realistic way of working through it and having it make sense would be to have Juliet in grade 9 and have Romeo in grade 12. Required fields are marked *. Juliet observes that if the Nurse were young she would be “swift in motion as a ball,” but as it is she’s old … So, to reiterate my point, whenever i read the play, i see Romeo somewhere around eighteen. She was 16 when they walked down the aisle together–A Catholic wedding, mind you! I was reading through the comments, and I saw one I needed to reply to. Therefore no one can say "He is X years old" and have it be anything but a guess. I've been reading R&J and it obvious that Juliett is a matured 13 years old. And often I think that we then make the leap and assume that Romeo is 13 as well. Deny thy eye patch and refuse thy rumors. Does this mean that the US has laws that promote pedophilia? Our own sense of historical self-importance seems to precede us; particularly re: eras about which we can have absolutely no sense of experience. But is it true that Shakespeare never mentioned Romeo's age. Yes, he would physically be an adult at 21, I have no doubts about that, but MENTALLY? Shakespeare focuses very much on love, but also on heartbreak and how love, never really seems to work out quite how you dream. My students age of 11 and 12 in love like R n J, talk about they would die if their parents ever tried to seperate them. I was searching for Romeo and Juliet's age because I recently finished reading it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_hair. No more than a year younger or about a year or 2 older than Juliet in Shakespeare's version. I've always imagined Romeo to be in his early to mid-twenties, for several reasons. Yes. Interestingly, on stage, actors much older than 21 get away with the role. I suppose there will always be someone to tell us how old he SHOULD have been, regardless of how old he COULD have been. By making Romeo ageless, it made most men to relate to him. We either cut the line or get some actor who's so good nobody gives a flying Capulet about how old she "really is". I had a detached retina (and) my lens came out, I had to have three eye surgeries. I could be completely wrong; I make no claim that I am right. This doesn't mean it's not possible that there's some acting genius out there your age who could play the role up to standards demanded professionally. i was 17 and she was 13 when we first saw each other, and it was love in one second view. Romeo, being a handsome young man from a rich family, would have been a tremendously qualified bachelor in Verona. But you are not quote Shakespeare there, you are quoting Brooke: http://books.google.com/books?id=nFUOAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=one+romeus+who+was+of+race+montague&source=bl&ots=FK-PXNWyHS&sig=1EpyV0wcsK5PZ-NmtFm6RKnT5AU&hl=en&ei=N2_ZSZLmEIeclAfjw-jFDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#PPR58,M1. The second juxtaposition is this: while all around them hate, Romeo and Juliet love. (Some of the arguments I’ve heard putting him toward 18 always seemed inexplicably “off.”) This way, he’s just young enough to be so wanton and so reckless with his sentiments (c.f., the Rosalind fiasco), but not quite old enough to have had enough experiences to jade him accordingly. I would, as a side note, like to point out that a pedophile is by definition someone 16 or older, whose primary sexual attraction is to children 12/13 or younger. Romeo is depressed with the fact that Rosaline dumped him. They are children who are *acting* like grown ups. The truth is, Shakespeare didn’t say — therefore nobody knows. To our 14 year old Juliet. PROLOGUE / Enter Chorus / CHORUS / Now old desire doth in his deathbed lie, / And young affection gapes to be his heir; / That fair for which love groan'd for and would die, / With Lmao people are talking about fictional people they never existed and if we look at the past The French Napoleonic code provided the legal context in 1791 when it established an age of consent of 11 years. Yes, most teens are horridly irresponsible. Article continues below advertisement What happened to Romeo from Immature’s eye? It's vital to the story that they are both essentially children, doing naive things because they don't know any better and because the adults in their lives aren't there to stop them. XO.xX.I'm 13, BTW.Xx. And given the fact that he has been played successfully, since the very beginning, by actors of varying ages contributes to your point. Regardless of how old anyone would prefer Juliet to be, "Even or odde, of all the daies in the year come Lammas Eve at night she shall be fourteene.". having the couple married so young was unusual and holds some sort of significance and probably would have weirded out audiences at the time. If Rosaline has the power to decide her marriage fate for herself, she either has an extremely overindulgent father or has already passed the prime age of marriage unwed for some reason or another. Three hours after sending the Nurse for news from Romeo, Juliet waits impatiently for her return. Okay, I think Zeffirelli has it right in his 1968 film. From the behaviours both in the play and films based on the play I believe that Romeo is around 16/17. I have an uncle who is in his late 30s, and he still acts like a teenager. I personally don't think that paedophilia had anything to do with Romeo and Juliet as in the time it was written there was no legal age of consent, and most girls had to get married and bare children so young because their life expectancy was so much shorter, a 13 year old girl was probably classed as middle aged!! And the work you say you put into it is truly admirable. however shakespeare has taken Brooke's story and transformed it into legendary lines of inspiration that send the reader into the heady daze of "love". They were in love, that was "shakie's" point!. By my count,I was your Mother much upon these yearsThat you are now a Maide. not a sexual attractions. Thinking of Romeo as 21 fundamentally changes the play into something that might as well be called Juliet, because then Romeo becomes just another adult manipulating Juliet's life for her. The group released four albums under the name Immature: On Our Worst Behavior (1992), Playtyme Is Over (1994), We Got It (1995) and The Journey (1997). He must also be older to correspond with the maturity and ages of Benvolio and Mercutio. She needs a release and she has a lot of love to give, because her family were too overprotective of her and never really showed their 'love' for her. Jones has also stated that he was hit in the eye with a book. So that certainly backs up the idea that you have to cast R&J of roughly equivalent ages to avoid squicking out your audience. so i definitely think it's a love story, but romeo definitely has physical and sexual attraction to her as well. Is Romeo and Juliet's tragedy the fault of the old people or the young people? So in order to get the men's attention he made it so that most men could relate to Romeo. Humans aint same, noone of us is, will never be. i just say that people can say whatever they want i dont really care anymore, I just think its wrong when they are judging and havent ever been in same situation. Relationships in the 21st Century contrast Shakespearean era, as seen in Romeo and Juliet. Just been reading through some of the comments on Juliets age and Romeo and Juliets marriage…. He finds Romeo in the street. Another reason I believe this to be the case is because his age didn't matter to Juliet. The Juliet in the original novel – Romeo and Guilietta – is eighteen. It was considered that, as soon as you were physically able to have kids, it was right to marry and have kids.Nowadays there's a bunch of useless, arbitrary rules with regard to the matter. If she hear me talking, I know she can hear the honesty in my voice and my sincerity. . Then you have a bad book, Rachel, if it makes statements like that :). I know I'm a bit late to post a comment but when I came across this I had to post my oppinion.I believe that shakespeare left Romeo agless for a reason.Juliet, to me at least, was usually the most mature character in the entire story. It is a beautiful story and there is no need for it to be criticised because a thirteen year old girl is very mature for her age, and the guy who wrote wasn't very clear about the boys age. He can’t be too old because (and i quote), “One Romeus, who was of race a Montague,Upon whose tender chin, as yet, no manlike beard there grew,Whose beauty and whose shape so far the rest did stain”, obviously he had not reached puberty yet (no beard yet), Not having a beard doesn’t mean you haven’t reached puberty, it means you haven’t reached the end stages. Are the Friar and the Nurse on the side of the old or the young? After the ball, Juliet tells the Nurse about her feelings for Romeo and she delivers messages between the two lovers throughout the play. In modern times legal age in most countries is 16 believe it or not. Btw, Juliet's not THAT young, you know. I've been doing a lot of research for an essay I have to write on the topic and one source (Cambridge Introduction to Shakespeare by Emma Smith) said that although most people presume that marriage at that age was a normal thing to do it wasn't. But lately fans started wondering more and more about him. I haven't researched that particular standpoint enough to express much of an opinion, but I will say this: I think that Shakespeare aged Juliet so young to create a few juxtapositions. Tybalt refers to Romeo as "Thou wretched boy". we question it because its too fast,it can't be real, lasting, love. The sooner you stop believing that, the less surprised you'll be when it becomes more obvious later on. why yes sir.. i read this because i have to in class. Throughout most of his career with Immature/IMX, Jones wore an eye patch over his right eye, leading to speculation that Jones had an eye condition. That is the cultural, classic and timeless beauty of his writings. I don’t need to make her older to justify anything, and I don’t need to make Romeo younger to get it to balance out. Also, I believe that Romeo's age is not specified because the real focus is Juliet. They just don't have the chops yet. Sir Edward Coke (England, 17th century) made it clear that "the marriage of girls under 12 was normal, and the age at which a girl who was a wife was eligible for a dower from her husband's estate was 9 even though her husband be only four years old." Despite helping them, she continually tries to convince Juliet to marry Paris. Romeo doesn't automatically think that way about Juliet. Its members include Marques "Batman" Houston (born August 4, 1981), Jerome "Romeo" Jones (born The first: Juliet is younger than all of the other main characters, yet she is by far the most mature. i can see JM's point. It seems likely that the relationship between Romeo and Juliet was more lust and youthful infatuation than real love; more the two reaching out to one another and forming a desperate, rebellious bond, as a means of gaining an outlet for the frustration created be the tension and isolation between their two families. However, Romeo's age is considerably more difficult to assign. We must remember, Juliet falls madly in love with Romeo on sight…how old can he be? Not many batted an eye. Paris). More than once, they both told me it was "Love at first sight". This doesn't mean, of course, that she Must be played by a 14 year old.In the 1936 George Cukor film, Norma Shearer was in her 30s I believe, and Leslie Howard (Romeo) was in his 40s!–that I know to be a fact. Cheers & best. Don't put yourself down just because you happen to be a certain age. But that’s hardly true, is it? NO because that would make him a pedophile. Under the name Young Rome, he released his debut album on June 24, 2004 entitled Food for Thought. She's perfect to get in love. It's thought that Richard Burbage was the first to play the role. One of the original "star-cross'd lovers," Romeo is the male half of the ill-fated pair who drive the action in the Shakespearean tragedy, "Romeo and Juliet. Past and to come seems best; things present worst. God(bible) or man? to Dana about it not being about physical attraction: i realize whole silioquy to juliet at her balcony is a big display of love and all, but it's also romeo musing on juliet's chastity. Pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescents, hasbephilia is an attraction to teens. In 2004, Jones began pursuing a solo career. It feels way better when they're younger. I like them very much that way. Your interpretive opinion is as valid as anyone else's who happens to be attempting to formulate ideas about the play from information we don't have. Sure, we all know that Juliet is 13, the Nurse comes right out and tells us. So I see no wrongdoing for a girl to marry at that age in Olde England. Do we think Shakespeare was totally inventing the situation? What do you mean ONLY beginning to think abstractly! Well it obviously says juliet's age "come lamas eve night shall she be 14." Look just around you with the new generation and try to add 100 or 200 years to this… It's complicate for us to imagine and we preferre to say that's a pedophilia act, that's the easy way to think ! This might sound stupid, but I just finished watching "Letters to Juliet" a second ago and Claire was only 15 when she fell in love with Lorenzo, so I wondered if it is possible to fall in such a deep love at a young age, just like Romeo and Juliet did. "…Ladies of esteem,/Are already made Mothers…" "I was already YOUR mother before this age you are now"–DUH. Sign up for our weekly newsletter and we'll deliver it right to your inbox! As for Juliet's age, she's 13 almost 14. Thanks for this. Also in Shakespeare's day, in England, marriages were usually arranged and the girls were 'matured' by about 12 though it wasn't unusual for a girl as young as 9 to marry someone of 40. and yerr sorry for my english grammar.. my only excuse is im from Norway.. and not a smart kid.. People have to remember that this was written during a time when a twelve year old girl could be married to a man twenty years her senior. I belive that shakie reduced juliet (or Gullieta)’s age because his plays were often based on italian culture and often included italian characters and at the the time it was common in italy for women/girls of a very young age to carry children and were seen more sexually mature than they were in england at the time and so ‘shakie’ maybe have been trying to make his plays more acurate, I apolagise if I seem stupid but please remember i am only a 14 year old who has just finished his yr9 S.A.T’s. A pedophile is a man or woman who has a sexual obsession with children who are deemed to be minors in the eyes of the law. Well, thinke of marriage now: younger than you,Here in Verona, Ladies of esteeme,Are made already Mothers. In terms of Romeo being ageless, you make a great deal of sense. She sees past the long-standing feud of the two families, so that she can love the man that she loves. And we cannot rely on Brooke's Romeus and Juliet because of the massive changes that Shakespeare made to the text. I am a vehement supporter of age-appropriate actors to play R&J…It's sickening to see 20 year olds playing Juliet. Immature (which eventually changed their name to Imx) is an American R&B boy band, managed by record producer Chris Stokes. I began puberty when I was in 5/6th grade, and didn’t even begin needing shaving for quite some time. To the pediphilia discussion, don't be silly. I like to think that Romeo is around 16-17 because it does mention in Act I Scene III, by the nurse that Juliet is turning 14 in two weeks and odd days. Not to mention the decline of society, by which most teenage girls (and guys) are far too irresponsible to do so (not meant to offend those who are responsible, but it's simply a fact).My wife and I got married at 17, had a beautiful daughter at 19 and we are doing very well (we are now 21 and our daughter is almost 2). There are so many obstacles and laws and bull shit.. that doesnt even seem right. , Juliet is 13 and Romeo is about 15 years old. It doesn't need dragging through with a fine tooth comb and the only way we are gunna settle this, is just to leave it! The group also branched out into film (such as House Party 4: Down to the Last Minute) and television (such as A Different World) before disbanding in 2002. But it would be TERRIBLE if they had been like 18 years old, it just seems so, I don't know why. But I put that on my life, I love her to death. Shamefully as is usual in this day in age, where so many people think of themselves as highly sophisticated intellects, such people seem to see situations through the prism of what THEY consider appropriate in today's age, within their own worlds, without giving consideration what was thought to be appropriate during a previous age, and different world, such as during the time of Romeo, and Juliet. Romeo and Juliet Romeo and Juliet is a love story written by William Shakespeare in 1594-1596, which was the late 16th century. For males, Beards come out anytime between 17 – early 20s, while puberty can begin between 11yo – 13 yo.
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